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GarryB
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
GarryB Thu May 16, 2024 3:08 pm
The main thing that would slow down the advance would be fortifications, but they have the antidote to fortifications called FAB-1500 and FAB-3000 with glide kits...
Most likely they will be testing the waters to see what opposes them and to choose the tools to deal with any resistance based on the situation.
Pushing into enemy held territory is forcing them to send fresh meat to the front line to stop them... if they send too much then the best solution is air delivered HE power, but also starting something somewhere else on the line too.
Russia has the advantage and can bleed Kiev even faster with attacks in multiple areas... there does not need to be a hard set goal, the purpose is to force them to move their forces around the place which can be targeted and also to hit soft targets of moving troops and material and fuel and ammo which also needs to move with their soldiers for their soldiers to be effective.
The Russians are holding most of the cards and Kiev has nothing to play except shock attacks that have nothing but propaganda value which only children will be impressed by.
At the end of the day they will look at all the little painful attacks that Kiev inflicted on them and they will think about those when negotiating a peace agreement... essentially Kiev is delaying the inevitable and also making a cane for its own back... I can't see Russia allowing Kiev to retain access to the black sea... they are an ongoing threat to shipping and Russian commerce through that area...
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ALAMO
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
ALAMO Thu May 16, 2024 4:04 pm
GarryB wrote:The main thing that would slow down the advance would be fortifications, but they have the antidote to fortifications called FAB-1500 and FAB-3000 with glide kits...
Russkie always put hell of attention to urban/trench/strongpoint warfare.
I will just remind you, that no other armed forces own 240mm strategic reserve level mortars.
Tulip's task was to devastate defensive positions, nothing else.
TOS function is quite similar, it was designed to defeat targets in both open space and strongpoints.
And the main thing concerning the ongoing conflict, is the fact that one side of it is busy with robbing and stealing.
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Hole
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Hole Thu May 16, 2024 4:40 pm
However, the hottest spot is Volchansk.
As soon as the village is liberated, the pace will accelerate again.
Or another part of the border area will be attacked.
Blinkens retarded
No need to repeat yourself.
that have nothing but propaganda
Some dumbass in Germany commented on that.
He called the attacks on Crimea "symbolic", but
thinks they are "important".
Wasting scarce wepaons for symbolic actions while
your fighters are getting annihilated along the entire
frontline.
I will just remind you, that no other armed forces own 240mm strategic reserve level mortars.
Syrians have a few. At least the towed version.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
PapaDragon Thu May 16, 2024 4:44 pm
thegopnik wrote:Crimea is a ATACMS punching bag
.....
Yup it happened again.
ALAMO wrote:Rise your hand, if your mummy dropped you twice - or more if one time was not enough?
Check his fresh avatar: Ironic Vucic
This clown is some EU dick-chugging liberal from downtown Belgrade
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Arrow Thu May 16, 2024 4:51 pm
https://twitter.com/Zlatti_71/status/1791116019911520715?t=u-xQak6VPc24GJFOkrQx8Q&s=19
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
JohninMK Thu May 16, 2024 5:26 pm
Hitting a site like that I can't remember Russia delivering another, with say an airburst fragmentation or cluster warhead, 20 or so minutes later. They certainly have the technical means and it would increase the body count, maybe seriously. Or they do and the video is not released.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
JohninMK Thu May 16, 2024 5:35 pm
It looks like the rear right tyre was blown in the first couple of seconds. The driver then tried to control the Humvee, probably a tough call at that speed, and failed. He could of hit the brakes hard but probably feared the drone, if he knew it was there.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1791066254469382229
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
JohninMK Thu May 16, 2024 5:39 pm
Better to take them out when all together rather than out on the sea.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1791062045267243141
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
JohninMK Thu May 16, 2024 6:28 pm
He looks like he should still be in school but he is a senior Lieutenant! A real modest hero, with a sense of fun.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1791043364235649174
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
VARGR198 Thu May 16, 2024 6:47 pm
https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1791145550106222691
https://twitter.com/lostarmour/status/1791140305397227753
https://twitter.com/aussiecossack/status/1791112465172033706
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
kvs Thu May 16, 2024 8:40 pm
Mir wrote:I think KVS is referring to Blinkens retarded remarks here?
It was not aimed at any specific post and is just psychobabble
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Arkanghelsk Thu May 16, 2024 9:30 pm
The Russians are planning something on the border with the Sumy region, reports the militant from “Aidar”.
According to him, the Russians are moving equipment closer to the line of combat.
Earlier, the head of the Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate, Budanov, announced the plans of the Russian army to attack in the Sumy region.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Hole Thu May 16, 2024 10:40 pm
Or they do and the video is not released.
Such a double-strike is quite common in the past months.
He could of hit the brakes hard but probably feared the drone
Great job. Vehicle destroyed, people on board injured.
Without Russian interference.
He looks like he should still be in school but he is a senior Lieutenant!
The number of vehicles he destroyed is nearly on WWII level.
How embarrassing for
Even more embarrassing: Russians are repairing the vehicle.
Meanwhile most western Armies have trouble to get enough spareparts for their own stuff.
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PhSt
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
PhSt Fri May 17, 2024 12:54 am
Im just wondering, what assets does NATzO have that allow them to track the movement of Russian aircraft in Russian territory, while Russia don't seem to know where NATzO F-16s are stationed in Ukraine?
Also, I'm sure Russia operates satellites that can take photographs from space, perhaps Russia can up its propaganda campaign by striking F-16s and then immediately take photos of the destruction. Just like what NATzO is doing Right now
JohninMK
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
JohninMK Fri May 17, 2024 1:08 am
Note that Belneck is almost empty of aircraft, too vulnerable. Why were there any Mig-31(presumably BM) there at all?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
thegopnik Fri May 17, 2024 1:39 am
PapaDragon wrote:
thegopnik wrote:Crimea is a ATACMS punching bag
.....
Yup it happened again.ALAMO wrote:Rise your hand, if your mummy dropped you twice - or more if one time was not enough?
Check his fresh avatar: Ironic Vucic
This clown is some EU dick-chugging liberal from downtown Belgrade
Only reason I chose him is because its f*cking funny that he looks like a chudjak.
ucmvulcan
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
ucmvulcan Fri May 17, 2024 2:21 am
JohninMK wrote:Note that Belneck is almost empty of aircraft, too vulnerable. Why were there any Mig-31(presumably BM) there at all?
Who says the MiGs are operational? let em waste their US advanced weaponry on stuff that might not be operational
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Vympel
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Vympel Fri May 17, 2024 3:28 am
ucmvulcan wrote:
Who says the MiGs are operational? let em waste their US advanced weaponry on stuff that might not be operational
We've seen photographs of the airbase both before and after, none of the other aircraft pictured were in the same place. The idea that there just happen to be broken aircraft sitting there for ATACMS to hit is just cope.
The Russians have lost numerous aircraft to high profile airfield strikes and this sh*t has been going on since 2022, and some of those losses could've been avoided if they had built some simple shelters for these multi-million dollar (and in the case of MiG-31s, currently irreplaceable) aircraft. It's nothing more than absolutely inexcusable incompetence at this point. Building a concrete shelter is not hard, and its not expensive.
PhSt
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
PhSt Fri May 17, 2024 3:36 am
Does Ukraine have uncharted Airbases? I don't see how NATzO can track the location of Russian aircrafts while Russia don't seem to be doing the same, Russia needs to actively search for any military aircraft in Ukraine and then spam the entire airbase with drones, cruise and ballistic missiles. Take satellite photos of Before and After the strikes, and release them to the public to demonstrate to the world the Destructive Power that Russia can inflict on its enemies
Meanwhile, NATzO media has launched another barrage of Copium Propaganda
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
PhSt Fri May 17, 2024 3:50 am
Vympel wrote:
The Russians have lost numerous aircraft to high profile airfield strikes and this sh*t has been going on since 2022, and some of those losses could've been avoided if they had built some simple shelters for these multi-million dollar (and in the case of MiG-31s, currently irreplaceable) aircraft. It's nothing more than absolutely inexcusable incompetence at this point.
Ahh... I know where this is going, after this CHEAP line you will pitch in the usual Putin must be overthrown for incompetence, taken straight out of the NATzO Propaganda manual
I see that NATzO Pigs are attempting another influence operation here in the forums, This is a good sign that the PIGS are getting desperate. Russia needs to continue its course and keep KILLING NATzO personnel in Ukraine until its complete Liberation
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Vympel
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Vympel Fri May 17, 2024 3:51 am
PhSt wrote:
Vympel wrote:
The Russians have lost numerous aircraft to high profile airfield strikes and this sh*t has been going on since 2022, and some of those losses could've been avoided if they had built some simple shelters for these multi-million dollar (and in the case of MiG-31s, currently irreplaceable) aircraft. [color=red]It's nothing more than absolutely inexcusable incompetence at this point[/img].Ahh... I know where this is going, after this CHEAP line you will pitch in the usual Putin must be overthrown for incompetence, taken straight out of the NATzO Propaganda manual
I see that NATzO Pigs are attempting another influence operation here in the forums, This is a good sign that the PIGS are getting desperate. Russia needs to continue its course and keep KILLING NATzO personnel in Ukraine until its complete Liberation
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I've been a member here since 2013 and have known GarryB since the keymag days. Shut up, you sound like a goddamn moron.
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sepheronx
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
sepheronx Fri May 17, 2024 3:59 am
Vympal, we're you on militaryphotos.net back then?
Vympel
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
Vympel Fri May 17, 2024 4:02 am
sepheronx wrote:Vympal, we're you on militaryphotos.net back then?
I was, but I didn't have that username, someone else got there first by the time I joined. I was Leo1 there.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #56
sepheronx Fri May 17, 2024 4:12 am
Ok, yeah your name, I remember. Been a long time. Leo1.
I agree with your statement. Somehow, in everything going on, the Russian MoD seems to be consistent in letting their jets get destroyed so easily. They shouldn't be so close, especially MiG-31's.
But whatever. They got some new people in charge. Hopefully this changes. New guy is all about money and he won't like how money is wasted on constantly needing to replace jets.
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